Stephen Travers Havening Techniques Trainer reveals the neuroscience behind the Havening Technique and what makes it so groundbreaking, rapid and effective in freeing people from anxiety, trauma and stress based issues in this probing interview with Karl Smith from the UK Hypnosis Academy.
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[Karl Smith]
Hello there folks! It’s Karl Smith from the UK hypnosis Academy. Tonight I’ve got some a great guest for us in tonight, to talk about the Havening Technique. So I’d like to introduce Mr. Stephen Travers. How are you Steve?
[Stephen Travers]
I’m very well Karl, thanks for having me. How you keeping?
[KS] –
I’m good. So what we’re going to be talking about tonight is the up and coming training that Stephen will be holding with the Academy in September. What we’re going to do is we’re going to give a couple of people a bit more time just to join us, there’s one or two people turning up. As you turn up just say “Hello” and tell us where you’re from and all that type of stuff, and then we’ll just go from there.
So we’re going to be talking about the details of the Havening Technique . What Havening does, how it can help you and support you in your therapy room. And many other things and Steve’s going to take us through it. So what I’m actually doing in the background is what every social media person should do really… is check to make sure that everything’s running fine. If there’s anyone out there at the present moment in time, just say “Hello” and just let us know that you’re about and then we’ll get underway. There’s a couple of people, oh good, good. So I’m actually doing down here is not being rude. I’m actually just checking to see me and Stephen are actually on the Internet. I always do that Steve, just to make sure.
So we’ve got a couple of people watching us now and there’ll be a chance for you to watch this later on. Steve do you want to tell us about yourself and about how you got into therapy, your business, where you’re based, and how you got into the Havening Technique.
[ST]
Well initially, I trained as a hypnotherapist and why did I do that? Well I had panic attacks and I was suffering with anxiety going back into my twenties. I was looking for a solution. I worked in sales and marketing at the time so I was very aware of NLP because we were trained in that and also some elements of hypnosis so I decided to do hypnotherapy training in Ireland. I found it very beneficial for my anxiety . It helped me overcome the panic attacks as well. I loved it! So I ended up becoming a hypnotherapist. I am also very much into personal development. Over the last decade or two I’ve been doing various different trainings. I’ve trained in everything from hypnoanalysis, psychoanalysis, NLP, EFT, TFT, the Demartini technique, and various other different types of therapies.
I came across the Havening Technique about five years ago. I was reading an article by Paul McKenna, McKenna was raving about this treatment called Havening. He essentially said that he believed it was going to change the face of therapy across the world. This really got my interest, so I went off and started researching it.
[KS]
How long have you been doing it now?
[ST]
I’m doing it about five years. I was one of the first Certified Havening Technique Practitioners in the world and the first one in Ireland. I’m also an international Trainer of the Havening Technique and the Deputy Head of the Havening Organization for Europe and the UK.
I have a clinic in Dublin, full-time practice now for just over a decade. I work mostly with anxiety-based disorders and confidence issues. That’s the main thing I do.
[KS]
Okay cool. Tell us about the training you went through for the Havening Technique and talk about all this about Steve and Ron. Let’s talk about the two guys there.
[ST]
Yes. Well a lot of people ask, “What is the Havening Technique?” It’s sounds like a bit of a strange word. It’s a psychosensory treatment or therapy. Which means that we use sensory touch where we stroke the arms, the hands, and the face, and we also use pleasant psychological distractions. Havening was developed by an American doctor called Dr. Ronald Ruden. Dr. Ruden has the largest private medical practice in New York, and he’s also a Harvard academic so you know he’s a pretty smart guy. When I read that article by McKenna I started researching about Havening online and I came across Dr Rudens book which is called “When the Past is Always Present.”
[KS]
Great book.
[ST]
That book really goes into the neurobiology, the neuroscience behind the Havening Technique in regards to how trauma gets encoded in the brain and the body. Ruden really worked what actually happened right down to the neurons in the amygdala when trauma gets encoded and how the Havening Technique, the sensory touch, how that actually removes the emotional and physical symptoms of the trauma within minutes. When I read that book, I was very impressed with the neuroscience.
I did one of the first Havening Technique trainings in the UK. This is going back about five years ago and the results I started getting with my clients… they were phenomenal. I was getting rid of you know post-traumatic stress, general anxiety, massive traumatic memories within minutes. It really transformed my practice in terms of the results I could produce, and even for my business model because people were going off and starting to talk about the results I was achieving.
[KS]
What I just want to clarify to our viewers at the moment, because this was a question that was posed earlier.The Havening Technique itself is nothing like, let’s say, Kinetic Shift, or Psy Tap as in Kevin Laye. It’s nothing like that is it?
[ST]
That’s right, the Havening Technique is very different from Kinetic Shift or hypnosis. It’s essentially a psychosensory approach so we’re using a lot of sensory touch and psychological distraction.
At the training I teach you how to pinpoint the root cause memories or traumas, that are causing the anxiety-based issues, the panic attacks, the post-traumatic stress, the phobias, the general anxiety. When you pinpoint those root cause events that are causing those symptoms; when you use the Havening Technique on it, it can completely and permanently remove the root cause and the symptoms and often those does that within minutes.
So it’s a different model that way, as we do look to seek the root cause memory or events that have caused the symptoms the person is suffering with in the moment.
[KS]
Okay. So how did they come about the science of this? How did they find out how to use the psychosensory touch?
[ST]
Yes, good question. It really goes back to a conversation Dr. Ruden had with Paul McKenna about 12 or 15 years ago at this stage. Paul was actually talking to Dr. Ruden about Tapping and Thought Field Therapy. Paul’s explanation was it was about Chi energy; the Chinese traditional mode. Dr. Ruden being the Western academic wasn’t exactly buying that explanation. But Dr. Ruden went off and started using Tapping with some of his patients and did research on it. He started getting some good results so being a neuroscientific researcher, he got very curious about why this was working. So he really went off and started studying why was sensory touch helping people to overcome anxiety-based issues.
He found that when we start stroking the face, the arms, and the hands, its producing something called a delta wave in the brain. Which is a slow sleep brain wave. It’s these delta waves that are actually creating a lot of the neurobiological changes both emotionally and physically on our clients when we use the Havening Technique . He also discovered that when someone becomes traumatized or what causes an anxiety-based issue, there’s something called AMPA receptors, the little receptors that get stuck to neurons in the amygdala at the time of the trauma. These receptors, “download” if you like, all the visual information, the auditory information, everything that you’re emotionally and physically feeling at the time, and then these receptors get stuck. If something reminds you of that past trauma, be it a smell, something looks similar, something sounds similar. That has potential to reactivate those receptors and release cortisol and adrenaline in your body and bring back those anxiety symptoms.
Now with the Havening Technique we seek to find the root cause memory or events where those receptors got instated and trigger off those receptors and use the Havening Technique to wipe those receptors off. Because once those receptors disappear it switches off or de-links the emotional and physical stress from that trauma, and from any huge triggers or stimuli in your environment that was triggering the trauma again, the panic attacks, the phobia, and the anxiety.
That was the big breakthrough that Dr. Ruden discovered. So in the training we teach you how to find and pinpoint those root cause traumas very quickly, sometimes within seconds even, when you’re speaking to a client. For the aim of getting the results really quickly for the clients.
[KS]
Scripts? And the way that people use a scripts-based model?
[ST]
No. In the two-day training what we do is we obviously teach you various elements. Like in the first section we teach you how to treat anxiety, panic attacks, post-traumatic stress, phobias, even chronic pain. We teach you how to, as I said, pinpoint those root cause traumas, and there’s about four things we look for. We call it EMLI, I won’t go into much detail about that but we call it EMLI, it’s an acronym for Events, Meaning, Landscape, Inescapability. So we teach you those four things on how to pinpoint those traumas and then how to use something called Event Havening Technique to clear them.
Then we teach you how to clear negative pathological emotions things like unresolved anger, guilt, shame, feelings of feeling not good enough, even if there’s been a lot of trauma in your past going back to your childhood that has gone on for years. We’ll teach you a method that can rapidly shift those negative pathological emotions literally within a session, sometimes within minutes. And then we teach you how to install positive emotional states things like confidence, calmness, and how to produce emotional resiliency within your clients to prevent future traumatization. We’ll also teach how to use the Havening Technique for addictions, cravings, things like smoking, people who are over-drinking over-eating, how to get to the root cause of those issues and use the Havening to shift them.
We teach you really the neuroscience, we teach you’re the theory and we do a lot of live demos on real issues over the two days. Then after each demo people go off in groups of three and actually use the techniques on each other. So it’s very structured over those two days.
Once you understand the science behind it, you can become very flexible with it. It’s not rigid that way. In fact, you do have to become a bit like a detective, to really think about what you’re doing when you’re listening to a client. It’s not like here’s a script and away you go. In fact, it’s quite the opposite.
[KS]
YeS. I mean we’re both on the same track with that, and I think there’s a lot of us out there… that you know, about this whole script thing we were talking about earlier… I was reading a thread the other day, talking about bulimia, someone was asking if you got a script for it. To be honest if you’re asking for that type of stuff you shouldn’t be practicing on people. I’m all about the person, and if you’ve done the KS training with us, it’s about the present out there, working with it, the intuitive element, about working with that person, those minute things. Working with the emotions there and then, rather than just “And as I walked down a winding staircase, are you there yet…”
That’s what I love about Havening, KS, Psy Tap, you know. You can get to the bottom of something really.
[ST]
It’s about teaching people what to look, for having that sensory acuity, like when sometimes a client is sitting in front of me they’ll start talking about something. I’ll see them well up and I’ll see the emotional charge and I know there is a trauma there and I go down that rabbit hole with them. If you’re too busy reading a script, and you’re not even watching the person in front of you, you can be in trouble.
[KS]
So I don’t know if you can see that, it hasn’t come up yet. It’s Angela, I’m having to read it off my phone at the moment. Can you see that question on there Steve?
[ST]
“What if the client doesn’t know the root cause?” Is that the question yeah?
[KS]
Yeah, that’s right.
[ST]
I don’t expect clients to know the root cause. As Havening practitioners that’s our job. That’s part of the reason why people are coming to us. It’s to be able to pinpoint the root cause and then use the Havening to shift it and clear it once and for all. We teach you how to identify and pinpoint the root causes of their symptoms.
[KS]
Yeah, see and that’s a key thing as well with KS, the issue is never the issue. That’s what I always teach. Your client will walk in with our whole ream and a list of: always this, and this, and this, and this, and this. But it’s actually not that. It’s actually nothing to do with it. The issue is never the issue. That’s the key point as well and it’s the same as with the Havening Technique suspect as well. They walk in, they give you a ream of stuff, but actually the depotentiation in the way that you’re working allows you to resolve it quite quickly.
[ST]
We found sometimes people with flying phobias, they’re coming in and obviously they’re there for the fear of flying, and we’ve often found that they had a drowning incident when they were younger and it’s actually stemming from that memory when they were trapped underwater and they felt claustrophobic and they couldn’t escape. The aeroplane is causing that feeling of being trapped again and not being able to get off… that’s what’s triggering it, that memory. So sometimes the root cause seems unrelated but when you understand the Havening model and the neurobiology of trauma, you’ll see how a lot interlinks and how you can get to the rudimentary shift. You’re both shifting the root cause, and the symptoms simultaneously.
[KS]
Patricia has just ask a question. I don’t know if people can see that, what the question was. Can you see that Steve?
[ST]
“If the client cannot remember cause, could you work blind? Can you work with no information?”
[KS]
So basically is this content-free? If the client comes to you and they haven’t got an inkling about what’s going on, they haven’t got a clue what’s going on, they just know something’s wrong. Can you still work with him and resolve the issue?
[ST]
Yes. First of all, sometimes clients come in and there’s some very personal issues. It could be things that are sexually related that happened in the past and they don’t want to talk about it, they don’t want to go into detail. Especially maybe in the first session, and so we can do it content free. All we need to do is find that emotional charge, activate it, then we can use the Havening to shift it.
If they don’t even know that, we can go in for the emotion, through what they’re experiencing in the present. There’s something called Transpirational Havening where we get them to say the feeling or the emotion that’s causing the problem. When we use the Havening Technique , because of the delta wave effect it actually helps to bring stuff up from the unconscious mind into their conscious awareness by feeling the emotion and going into it. It’s kind of going down the rabbit hole and drawing stuff right up from the client, so it brings up a lot of suppressed and even repressed memories and emotions, but as you’re doing it you’re actually shifting and clearing and healing it.
[KS]
This is the same way as I work. I work content free. When a client comes, a lot of people will sit there and say, will I take an hour-long consultation or a half an hour consultation. I’m going to be honest with you folks, now I know you’ve see me work Steve, I won’t even take five minutes. If you want to stop me at any point and talk about the way you do your Havening… but for me personally, when I sit a client down when they come to see me, I’m always sitting there thinking they haven’t got a clue what’s going on so what’s the point of bloody well asking them. They’ll be tell me this-this-and-this when actually if I can get them into that position, and unleash it, or get rid of it, then I will do. I never do an elongated consultation, if I’m ten minutes into a consultation then something’s gone tragically wrong and I genuinely mean that. My first consultation and my session are all combined. The reason being, I work content free. I work thinking, and well actually knowing in some cases, that the client does not even know what’s going on, which is a key thing there.
[ST]
With the Havening Technique , we do both. We can do it a content free but we can also do a consultation at the beginning. But once again 10-15 minutes, and when you get really good at Havening you’ll be able to spot stuff in seconds. I can pick up stuff right over the phone, on the consultation I do on the phone. I know what questions to ask. I know what to look for. Because of the consistent and remarkable results Havening produces, clients can pick it up from me on the phone, how confident I am when I’m speaking to them. I can’t guarantee things but they pick it up from me that there’s a very high probability we’re going to be able to get some really great results for them and ones that actually last.
[KS]
So can the Havening Technique be used, well we’ve talked about trauma which is important, but can you use it for things like fears, phobias, anxiety, and even weight loss? Let’s look at the spectrum… and even stop smoking?
[ST]
There’s a few different things you can do with it. Number one with cravings, or compulsions. Say someone has a craving to smoke a cigarette and in certain situations where on a scale of 0 to 10, they’re at an 8 or a 9, when they’re having a drink or when they’re having a break. We can trigger that craving in the session and activate then we can apply the Havening on it to de-link the emotional, physical feeling of the craving. We can literally switch it off in many cases, or at least significantly reduce it. We also look out from the perspective of what’s driving the craving, and sometimes like you often see with weight loss, there’s emotional issues, unresolved trauma, stress there. We approach it that way where we look at the causes, of what’s causing the eating, down-regulate their stress, then it’s much easier for them to get in control of the food.
But once again we can also directly treat the craving. So we’re doing both again, we’re looking at the root causes of what’s causing the addictive behavior, but we can also directly treat the cravings themselves. We can also teach people how to self Haven at home. If they have a craving or stress or compulsion, to down-regulate the craving or the stress or even switch it off, and you can often do that within minutes.
[KS]
Let’s talk about post-trauma. How quick has it taken you to do deal with post-trauma before?
[ST]
If someone comes in and they have a massive traumatic memory, or we pinpoint where the traumas coming from. It could be a car accident, it could have been… they could have been raped, physically attacked… we can activate that traumatic memory. Most people would have a 10 or higher. You know, they blow the top off it with severe trauma. It generally takes under seven minutes to completely clear the emotional and physical symptoms from the trauma. It’s gone. Even when they think of the memory again and try and get it back, the memory is really distant, it’s faded, and the emotional and physical stress symptoms that were there are gone. And anything that was triggering that trauma on a day-to-day basis, watching something on the TV, someone saying something, it won’t be able to trigger it anymore. Because the receptors that I talked about are now completely removed. It’s changing the neuro chemical landscape of the brain. So to answer your question, most traumas can be cleared no matter how big, and under ten minutes but that’s generally about seven, five minutes.
[KS]
Okay cool, so you can actually get rid of trauma in one session.
[ST]
Yes absolutely.
[KS]
You know that and I know that.
[ST]
I’ve seen people and I’m sure you’ve had. Where they’ve done months, sometimes years, of various talk therapies. And then they come in and in one session yeah, massive transformation. Because you know what to look for and you have the tools that you can work with the client to get the results.
[KS]
You just kicked my pedestal right, because that’s a key thing, is that neuroscience has changed the way we work. I don’t want to dismiss it because talk therapies have their place, however in Sigmund Freud’s time, and Jung’s, and around that, and when we were discovering psychoanalysis and all that type of stuff. We were a human race that was completely and utterly different. Now we want things now. If our McDonald’s is not there in five minutes we’re kicking off at the counter. If our Amazon Prime is not there the next day we’re kicking off on the phone. We want the here and now. We have the capacity now, to do things that our brains didn’t and if we look at it now, my father and my grandfather they used abacuses at school. My eight-year-old son uses an iPad you know, and it’s that way of thinking, that even though counseling and CBT have a place in society, that they don’t naturally represent the way that we work now.
It’s very well and good that the NHS go, counseling, we all have to go to counseling because that’s the only way. That’s because the NHS is you know struggling.
[ST]
I had a girl with me today, she’s done over a dozen sessions of counseling. She actually had a panic attack in one of her counseling sessions because what’s happening is she’s sitting in the counseling session, she’s talking about her trauma, it’s actually triggering it, and counselor is sitting there thinking it’s cathartic, which it isn’t. It’s actually just triggering the trauma and the counselor doesn’t have the tools, knowledge, or skills, that actually clear or shift the trauma or down-regulate it. All they’re doing is opening up a can of worms, but then they don’t actually have a tool or a method to actually go and effectively treat it. Yeah and I see that nearly every week, many times a week. I hear that story. Someone calls the office or the client’s in, they’ve done months of talk therapy, not to say it doesn’t help. But essentially the anxiety-based issues are still there they’re still suffering with them.
[KS]
I’m very quick to… and this is not counselor bashing, believe you me. But if I had a pound for every time somebody turned up like that, because it’s not changed. The models haven’t changed that much and they may have tweaked the odd book, but they’re still not. I went for counseling for when I got run over. I went for counseling and it actually exacerbated it; it actually made it worse. That’s not to say all, because there are some good counselors out there, some good people that actually know how to help.
[ST]
Karl can I tell you why that’s happening from the Havening Technique model. What’s actually happening in the amygdala, remember we talked about those receptors.
[KS]
Yeah.
[ST]
When you talk about the trauma, you’re starting to fire those AMPA receptors off and they’re releasing cortisol and adrenaline in your body, But you’re not removing them, you’re just activating them. Session after session, you keep talking with the trauma and you’re getting upset. The counselors sometimes think “Oh it’s good” or going “They’re getting it, out it’s cathartic.” All you’re doing at a neurobiological level in the amygdala is firing those AMPA receptors off.
Now what we’re aiming to do, and we’ve already done it, is we are training lots of psychotherapists, we’re training counselors how do use Havening because it is a great bolt-on set of tools and techniques for any counselor, psychotherapist, or any therapist to have. So when you bring up the stuff, when you’re able to identify it, or you see it’s coming up you actually have the tools then to actually go and and heal your client if you like. Or to remove the trauma.
And that’s what people want as you said. People don’t want months and years of therapy. They’re used to… you know if you want something, you want to get it today. They don’t want to wait two months or three months.
[KS]
What’s the point? I mean don’t get me wrong, a good cathartic release is all well and good. I really am and I don’t want to upset anyone, if I mean if you’re doing six plus sessions with people then you need to get retrained to be brutally honest. That’s my own personal opinion, is that you shouldn’t be doing six sessions with people like that. There are people out there, like this technique, like Psy Tap, many other things that are out there as well, that will get rid of trauma very quickly and spontaneously. I do it. There’s videos of me doing it and people have seen that. I’m sure you’ve got videos as well Steve of you doing it. So people who say it can’t be done, they’re the ones that I worry about, because they’re the ones that that are so hypnotized in their own little world of “You can’t do it, you’ve got to do twelve sessions” and “They must do this, they must do that.” Or pre-planning the sessions prior to turning up. That’s the worrying thing.
What we’re saying is that you have to look at the world from a different perspective to what some talk therapies are still training. They’re still in the 40s and the 50s talking about abacuses when we’re playing with iPads and that’s a very simple thing about that, about Havening, and about the other techniques that I’ve mentioned as well.
[ST]
Yeah a lot of it is about people just being curious enough to go off and research this stuff and to do the training in it. Like I said to a psychotherapist a good while ago when I started Havening and the answer they gave me was “Well I did my training ten years ago.” You know if you’ve got that attitude then, well yeah…
[KS]
You know as well as I do it’s just train, train, train. Every month I’m doing something new to try.
[ST]
Even though I get great results with Havening, it’s one of the main treatments I use. I came to your training there a month or two ago, and then London, and to do the KS, and I’ve done so many training’s over the last decade. I keep doing them because I keep learning. Even if I get a distinction it can make a difference in the session, and it’s giving me broader knowledge and more tools and skill sets you know to get results with my clients and that’s what it’s all about. Especially when you want to run a really successful practice that’s based on getting results for your clients.
[KS]
Yeah. So this is Angela again. Angela Rich. I don’t know why the names aren’t coming up, I’m not too sure why it’s not. I’ve got my mobile here can you see on the screen Steve?
[ST]
Yeah. “I’m registered with NHS as hypnotherapist. I know doctors have done Havening training.” A lot of medical doctors have done the training, psychologists as well. “Has any attempt to register with the NHS been made? Could save NHS millions. Kinetic Shift too of course.” Yeah.
There’s being various studies going on, we did a study with King’s College London. You can see it online about the impact of one Havening session on severe anxiety and depression and that showed great results. We’re working with various associations in the UK, got to do with veterans as well, which we’re making very good progress on. There’s more research coming out like I said in the NHS. I’m based in Ireland, Dublin, I can’t tell you but specifically what’s happening there but I think with these things it’s just going to take time.
[KS]
Yeah and the thing is mates, it all comes down to financial. You know as well as I do, that what we’re doing with the investment that people would make by coming on this course, would is part of this next question I’m making pop up as well, is that you save the NHS millions of pounds by doing this stuff but they just can’t see it. They can’t see the wood for the trees.
So this thing follows on to this. This is from Grace McCarthy. “Hi Stephen, hi Karl, I live in Glasgow and it takes a minimum of four months for a young person to get an appointment with a child psychologist. Self harming, depression, anxiety, can all of these be helped by using the Havening technique?” Yes.
[ST]
That’s the simple answer, yes. But when someone comes in like that be it an adult, a teenager, or child from the Havening perspective we look at why are they doing that. What’s going on at home, in their family, you know we talk with adverse childhood affects, what’s going on in their life or their environments? There are more times often than not, there’s going to be trauma there.
[KS]
So Grace, thank you very much for that question anyway.What’s does the Havening training going to entail? So they’ve got two days, but what are they going to achieve at the very end of it.
[ST]
At the end of the two-day training, everything we’ve been talking about, you know they’re going to have at least five very effective and powerful Havening techniques to use to help clear anxiety-based issues. To help people overcome addictions, their habits, behaviors, how to produce positive emotional states, emotional resiliency.
They’re also going to learn how to use Havening with hypnosis and hypnotic techniques and how to combine the two. We’ve actually found that when you use Havening with hypnotherapy or NLP techniques it enhances the actual techniques. That’s why Paul McKenna is also such a big fan of Havening because he uses Havening in combination with hypnosis and NLP. I will go through the reason why at training. They will learn how to integrate both for even better results with those modalities.
At the end of the two days is where you’ll also get a pack. It’s a DVD pack which gives you a two-day training with Dr. Ruden in New York. It’s a recorded training which once again, it goes quite deep into the neuroscience and various demonstrations. Plus together a primer which breaks down all the different techniques for a whole range of various issues and then how to use it. If they want to become Certified, there is a certification process after the two days where we ask people to do 30 case studies, an online science exam, and also shoot two videos because anyone who we certify we want to be able to say that they’re at that high standard. It is a good requirement, and you can do that on your own in your own time, that’s something you’re applying for after the two-day training.
[KS]
Okay cool. Sorry I was listening, but the same so I’m just making sure, obviously you know… Basically the course is there, Steve’s going to be coming over, it’s going to be a great two days. Honestly if you haven’t seen any videos on YouTube go away and go and look there. I’m sure Steve got some on his website, that was what I was literally just chasing around just then.
[ST]
Yeah there are various ones, you’re going to see lots. You go to my website and you’ll see lots of video testimonials from clients who came in with panic attacks, post-traumatic stress, flying phobias, irritable bowel syndrome, which Havening works great for because it’s anxiety-related. You’ll see the results people got in just one session of Havening. The videos are there, you’ll see it on the page or the link from here.
[KS]
What I want you to take away from this is that all the techniques, whether it’s Psy Tap, the Havening Technique, KS, CBT, counseling, whatever it is, whatever you’re doing out there. They all combined. Anyone who sticks to a strict protocol is off their noodles. Because people aren’t strict protocols so why would we want to work like that. So you know I’ve worked with Havening before where I work with Havening and then I’ve gone to KS, then I’ve gone to Psy Tap, then I’ve gone to Havening. I’ve done bits and bobs and it’s not so it’s ineffective just the way that I work. I’m erratic, for anyone who’s ever seen me do stuff, I get results but I work my way around and use different techniques all the way around. It’s a great tool to have, it’s very powerful and if you look at the following of it, and what’s the website? Havening.org I believe it is.
[ST]
Yeah that’s the official website. It’s havening.org.
[KS]
I want to make it clear for those people who are unaware about what the Havening Technique is. This isn’t Stephen Travers who’s just come up with an idea. I’ve plunked it on Facebook and said let’s go do a course. This is a global thing like KS and Psy Tap. I keep mentioning them because they’re all in same ilk for me I love all three of them. It’s just a case of, they are global things and Havening is a very big thing.
[ST]
Can I also mention Karl, because you’re right saying that. It’s very easy for me to sit here and say how great Havening is. There is a book that was published and I don’t make anything from this book, so I’m not plugging it. It’s called “Fifteen Minutes to Freedom” okay. That’s 30 interviews with hypnotherapists, medical doctors, psychologists, psychotherapists, EMDR trainsers, EFT practitioners, TFT practitioners, who all use Havening in their practice and they talk about how it has revolutionized their practices and the results they get with their clients. There’s 30 chapters going in-depth with all those different professionals in this book. So don’t just take my word for it. This is from these practitioners they are based from the US to Europe, even a couple people in there from Australia.
So if you’re skeptical or you want to check it out more you can get that book, I think on Kindle I think it’s about 12 pounds. 12 euro. So “Fifteen Minutes to Freedom”, it’s all in there too.
[ST]
It is worth mentioning as well, over those two days as well as learning Havening for yourself for your clients. It’s also for yourself to use those two days as an opportunity to shift any stuff that’s still there within you. Because I will be bringing people up, I don’t care how big the trauma is, how much trauma there’s being, what the issue is. We’re going to be able to use the Havening Technique on it. In the practice groups as well, you will be working on real issues, plus we also have a team of facilitators there, Certified Havening practitioners sitting with each group.
[KS]
Yeah that’s cool. So it’s a weekend, it’s a bit like KS, when we were there that weekend in Heathrow a couple of weeks ago. Literally there was just trauma, there was child abuse, there was anxiety, all being treated. You’re not just coming on a course to just learn a technique, you will develop yourself. This is you will change, change will happening within yourself, and then you will learn and take those learning experiences with you to go out and help the many others.
[ST]
As you say Karl, it is about confidence and that’s another thing the Havening Technique gives therapists. When you come away from the training, you’ve got the knowledge and the techniques to go off and consistently get great results. Havening is such a consistent treatment. When you’re talking to clients, when you’re working with people, you’re 99% sure almost that you’re going to get a result, and you’re going to get major results. That gives you great confidence as a therapist and people pick up on that when they speak to you, when they work with you, and it’s a win-win for everyone.
[KS]
I highly recommend it so folks, at the end of the day, for those people have done KS with us. You know for a fact that we only bring quality over. We only want people that are going to do what they say on the tin. It’s not a made-up thing that was just whatever. Havening is a global thing that has been going around, helping thousands and thousands and of thousands of people. So I would say to go do your research and then come join us in Suffolk. Let me just redo this for you, just a recap for you. The 15th and 16th in Suffolk, where I am now so I can’t really forget where I am. And you’ll be doing two days with Steve.
Steve I just want to say “Thank you very much for tonight!” It’s been great talking to you again as ever, it’s been great talking to you about Havening and how it was conceived, and the concepts.
[ST]
Thanks for having me Karl
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